The First Major Problem

Saturday, November 29, 2003
We were shopping at Upper Canada Mall in Newmarket. When we returned to our vehicle, there was water dripping in via the center console (on the roof) and by the front passenger roof handle. We immediately drove the vehicle to MacIVER Dodge - which happened to be right across the street.

The water coming into the vehicle was definitely a lot more than just condensation. It was a steady stream (although a small stream) of water. Everytime I turned the corner or slowed down, the water leaking in would temporarily increase. By the time we arrived at MacIVER Dodge, the leaking had stopped. All that was left were 2 boxes of wet kleenex that we had used to catch the water.

We brought the leak and the ongoing defrost issue to the attention of MacIVER Dodge. We also made them aware of a second row cupholder that had never really worked properly. They scheduled a service appointment for us on Dec 2.

Tuesday, December 2, 2003
We dropped our van off for service and we were provided with a loaner vehicle. The loaner vehicle was an old van that mechanics had been using to pick up parts. It had grease all over the steering wheel and the driver's seat. Upon complaining (which I don't think was uncalled for), we were "upgraded" to a clean loaner vehicle. Why would a dealership even think about giving a customer a vehicle that is covered with grease?

Anyways, MacIVER Dodge tested for a water leak in the roof and could not find one. The front defrost was also checked out and no fault was found. We were told that the ventilation system was pulled apart to look for blockages and that they didn't find any. Then we were told that the front window taking 20+ minutes to defrost is normal. Huh? If it's normal, why even pull apart the ventilation system then?

As for the cupholder, they forgot to order the part.

The vehicle was returned the next day. We were scheduled in on Dec 5 to come back and have the cupholder repaired.

Friday, December 5, 2003
My wife brought our van into the dealership (as scheduled) to have the cupholder repaired. They checked out the van and realized that they did not have the correct part. They promised to order the proper part and to call us when it arrived. (Looking back, I guess this was a warning sign of things to come.)

Thursday, December 11, 2003
We were called and told that the part for our cupholder was in. My wife brought the van into service. The wrong part had been ordered. Again, we were told that the correct part would be ordered and we would be called when it was in.

How does this happen? I can understand the first time, when they forgot to order the part. Maybe (if I try to pretend that I'm incompetent) I can understand the second time, when they ordered the incorrect part. But the third time!??!!? Come on! Is the first time they've ever ordered a part?!?!! Is a cupholder such a new feature that they are not familiar with it yet?!?!!

Saturday, December 13, 2003
We're still experiencing major problems with our front defrost. Regardless of what they say, 20+ minutes to defrost the front window is not normal. I've never seen anyone wait that long. We've also noticed some more water leaking into the vehicle. Yesterday afternoon there was some evidence that water had leaked in - although we didn't actually witness it. This afternoon we saw more water dripping in via the same two spots as on Nov 29.

Monday, December 15, 2003
We had arranged to drop our van off this evening so that the leak and defrost issues could be checked out again tomorrow. A loaner vehicle was to be ready for us to drive home. I arrived at the dealership and obtained the keys for the loaner van from the receptionist. I needed to move the child seats from our van into the loaner van. I could not find any hooks to connect the child seats to in the middle row. I popped the liftgate and thought that I would take a look at the rear row of seating. I leaned on the rear seat as I bent down to check for latches. The rear seat lifted completely out of the floor. I was a little shocked, but tried to position it back into place to fasten it. However, the fasteners were broken!!! MacIVER Dodge has given me a loaner vehicle to put my family in where the back seat does not fasten into the floor!!! What if I had buckled my children in there and had to make a sudden stop?!?!? Are they absolutely freakin' stupid!?!?! How is it possible that a vehicle with this type of problem is being used as a loaner vehicle? I march back into the receptionist, take my keys back, and leave!!!



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